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Aerodynamic efficiency can reduce fuel (energy) use and envi

examiner.com -- The attraction for many of hybrid vehicles is higher fuel efficiency. High fuel efficiency means making the same travel with less energy expended.

In general efficiency is recognized as one of the ways to reduce the environmental impact made by our society. A 50 miles/gallon car on a 200 mile trip burns 4 gallons of gas while a 25 miles/gallon car requires 8 gallons of gas for the same trip. That effect of fuel efficiency means half the cost, half the harmful emissions, and half the oil used, to take the same trip.

According to fueleconomy.gov: "On the EPA highway cycle with an average speed of 48 mph, 54% of the energy required to move a car goes to aerodynamic drag. Because drag increases with the square of speed, more than twice as much energy would be required to overcome


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Gas_Buzzer
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I am not attracted. Open up the wells and quit playing games!
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TIGERPAW46
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 1:11:17 AM

Nothing new here.
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djtdi
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:50:12 AM

Now common folks have to learn aerodynamics. There may be benefits to it. We all will learn sciences like fluid dynamics,drag coefficients. Some good should come out of this mess we have gotten into. Industry leaders have been crying out for better math and science education in USA. They've been complaining about how US has fallen behind in homegrown Science and Engineering graduates. This economic mess we are in might force all of us to think and learn sciences,applied science and math in order to improve our personal economic well being.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:34:20 AM

Its time they did something.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:25:40 AM

they actually paid someone to write this article. i think grade school kids are taught the basics of this in their math classes.
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EcoVore
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:21:54 AM

Aerodynamic airplane design finally coming to the auto, fantastic!
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:20:49 AM

filler news, but indeed, no news
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:20:03 AM

Not much new here.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:15:56 AM

Higher efficiency is good.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:15:25 AM

Yawn, grade school...
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:13:52 AM

Wait a minute, there are people who didn't know this?
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:11:48 AM

Makes you want to draft a semi or large 4x4.

When I go down I5, I have to look for large vehicle to draft behind, saving as much gas as I can. There is a big difference between the mileage on my Olds Intrigue and my Jeep Liberty (6mpg!)...
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Ever wonder why Peterbilts, Kenworths and other trucks have flat fronts? Wouldn't the long over the road vehicles need needle noses for efficiency? --First, there is such a thing as too long. A long aerodynamic nose would just get in the way on the road or off. But the big drag is the aerodynamic cross-section. Trying to push a big square box thru the resistance of the air takes most of the energy put out by those big diesels. Sleeker cabs don't increase fuel mileage that much. Otherwise everybody would buy them. But it does make for less noise. A loaded truck makes more noise driving by than the same truck unloaded.
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Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:05:20 AM

This is nothing new. They've designed for it for years in aviation.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:01:23 AM

Aerodynamic design is just one ingredient to reducing our dependence on Big Oil. We should be working on every known ingredient and looking for even more.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:57:14 PM

Most hybrids are pretty blocky vehicles in my recollection.
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LoneGuy
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Try going down the freeway at 48mph.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:54:38 PM

yes, and let's make all add-on's such as ski racks illegal :)
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:47:49 PM

Where's the news?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:46:51 PM

No matter how you get higher MPG. We all need to get higher MPG.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:40:09 PM

ah hah!!!!
that explains it!!!! I guess I should take that parachute off my vehicle...huh?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:35:55 PM

wow - imagine that !!! lol
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:29:22 PM

wonder how long it took them to figure aerodynamics played a huge part in mpg ??..
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:26:18 PM

First they have to decrease the price of a hybrid.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:25:47 PM

Improving aerodynamics of a vehicle certainly helps fuel efficiency.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:23:58 PM


Audi paid the most attention to lowering their models' drag coefficient in the late 70s and 80s when few other manufacturers were concerned. A low .30s is doing well. The drag coefficient should be posted on every vehicle sticker next to the EPA mileage.
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tedjm1
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:19:22 PM

Has someone just woke up to the fact that aerodynamics provides efficiency?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:15:29 PM

Hmm.. so what is new?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:15:09 PM

The idea to making aerodynamics has been around for a long time now. It had come up in the mid 1980's, not too long after the fuel crisis. This idea also brought the new style into place.

Some of today's style have lost some, but it is evident that aerodynamics is always going to stay.
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Nothing new.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:12:26 PM

Now what genious did it take to figure this out?
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Nothing new here.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:10:18 PM

ok...
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What solution do you propose?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:08:49 PM



... so require ALL vehicles to be aerodynamically friendly ...
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:06:42 PM

wow... I didn't know this... did I really need an article to tell me the OBVIOUS?
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no brainer....
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If they really wanted us to get more miles to the gallon, we would be. It's been all about the big oil boys for a long time. That's why they scrapped the first electric car the was sold back in the 80's. They want us to use more oil so that the big boys can get richer.
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okey dokey
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linga115
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 11:00:07 PM

then why does everything still look like a box. people and their fashion sense. swallow your pride will ya?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:56:37 PM

Makes sense.
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Ok!
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duh, you don't say....
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:49:10 PM

There are factors other than design and speed that affect fuel efficiency of vehicles. Many of the recent vehicles are higher off the ground and boxey in design but are rated as fuel efficient but do not appear very areodynamic. A dealership that I worked at in the 1960's when most cars were carbed use to always test mileage with the old measured gallon bottle and you just drove down the highway until it ran out of fuel to measure the mileage. It was not uncommon to see many of the full boxed frame, all steel bodied V8 powered cars get 25 to 30 MPG and some of the old 235 ci six cyclinder Chevs get up to 35 MPG. Fuel economy started to drop with the big boats built in the 70's and then again as we started going to fuel injection. Gasoline changed and the octane became lower and we had trouble getting the same speed out of our race cars and had to start mixing fuel blends and putting in additives. There were a lot of things done to gain mileage but most actually made the car less safe as we took off weight by removing the strong frames and adding plastic. Fuel economy also has to do with how you drive as much as what you drive. Racing from one corner and slamming on the brakes at the next doesn't help. I have a friend who modified his 5.4 Litre Ford with a carb and he gets 42 MPG on the highway and he passed his emmissions test. Things could be done it\f they wanted to do them.
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The Chevy Volt has the best Cd, but it is not even available yet.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:46:04 PM

SO WHAT!
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:37:00 PM

And somebody thinks this is news?
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Thanks captain obvious.
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Tell Mr Toyoda--simple safety items apparently escaped him.
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