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How one inventor wants to boost EVs with a towable turbine

Yahoo Autos -- When Nissan unveiled its Leaf EV last year, the wedge-like machine lifted the spirits of any motorist disgruntled by the Who Killed The Electric Car? era. None more so than Sadow, who grew up criss-crossing the country thanks to his father's job with the electric golf cart giant, E-Z-Go.

"You can say I got bit by the EV bug early, around the age of 7," Sadow says.

Fast forward a few decades, and that kid is now an electrical engineering whiz who has become consumed with making this incarnation of the electric car live.

"My goal is to make the EV a success, because it's the only thing that's going to save us," he says. "Our culture is based on cars, so that's not going away. But when petroleum becomes scarce, our economy is going to tank given our dependency on foreign oil. I just

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,972 Points:1,247,150 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 5:04:44 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse jr: you're right, not a lot of mainstreaming yet, but then ICE took about 30 years to take off.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,777 Points:1,251,175 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 11:06:10 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse EVs are not yet ready for prime time but all manner of tinkering and innovations will one day get them there. Still, not much progress has been made until the electricity for recharging is all solar generated.
joseph000 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,063 Points:205,665 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:21:40 AM Ignore joseph000 Report Abuse While a creative solution for this guy, it's no practical solution for us. For now, until we get better batteries, EVs are only good for short trip drivers, commuting, second vehicles, etc. Hey, they are great for that, but if you own an EV and need to go on a long trip, rent a regular car for that. But hey, if you can use an EV 350 days a year, and only rent cars a few days a year, that's way better!
wild3bill Champion Author New York Posts:2,191 Points:1,501,525 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 7:33:38 AM Ignore wild3bill Report Abuse Turn a Leaf into a Volt ;-}
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:26,058 Points:1,983,460 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:29:29 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse How one inventor wants to boost EVs with a towable turbine propane-powered Capstone turbine engine that spins at 100,000 rpm, has only one moving part and can help electric vehicle owners get around the lack of quick-charging stations. Install the turbine in the vehicle to produce electricity for the EV and Inbred batteries. Turbines can be made very small, so the generating ability does not take up too much room and no trailer is needed. If that French guy can fly with four turbines on his wing, an EV and Inbred can use one to generate electricity and have room for a special turbine fuel storage tank too. EV’s and Inbreds need a much longer driving/battery range, a different kind of ‘quick charge’ battery or charged battery swap, and a reasonable battery replacement price when that battery finally dies. Develop an EV battery pack that does not overheat with operation of the vehicle, when charging or in long term storage. Produce and ‘drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
leekee Veteran Author Kansas Posts:389 Points:179,035 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:25:30 PM Ignore leekee Report Abuse i dont think so...
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,283 Points:1,781,945 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:21:38 PM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse It is a waste of money
heartbroken2010 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,512 Points:535,505 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:21:31 PM Ignore heartbroken2010 Report Abuse would not bet on a timeline for everyone to be driving an EV , good thing EV's are, too bad you cant go very far on a single charge yet.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,722 Points:1,704,600 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:21:06 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse The Leaf is just too much money up front! I sat in one and talked with the dealer, but saving money with my limited driving not possible.
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:1,966 Points:2,106,000 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:20:11 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse No EV for me.
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,561 Points:352,775 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:18:25 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse time will tell.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:4,075 Points:495,490 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:17:46 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Weird, but is it workable?
min_fuel Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,823 Points:655,580 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:17:24 PM Ignore min_fuel Report Abuse Gee, I don't know. Makes you wonder?
Colts13 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:660 Points:256,395 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:17:23 PM Ignore Colts13 Report Abuse ok
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:9,054 Points:1,770,610 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:16:10 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse Why tow it? Build the tiny gas turbine into the car as the sustainer (battery charger (serial hybrid)). Its got to be cheaper, cleaner and easier.
txkrb All-Star Author Texas Posts:860 Points:314,705 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:15:29 PM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse From article "Our culture is based on cars, so that's not going away. But when petroleum becomes scarce" For the most part the electricity to recharge the EVS comes from electricity generated from either petroleum products or coal I have wondered how do they heat EV in the winter, electric heater coils use a lot of energy Do the electric motors produce a significant amount of heat? I understand in the Prius the gas engine produces the heat in the winter If it is very cold out the gas engine would have to run a significant amount of time during a 5-10 mile commute, eliminating much of the fuel savings
must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:7,169 Points:1,419,675 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:15:12 PM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse Here is someone who is does carry the idea for advancement.
MotoDad Veteran Author Phoenix Posts:261 Points:515,745 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:15:03 PM Ignore MotoDad Report Abuse I would drive one.
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,250 Points:550,425 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:14:10 PM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse as soon as ev are popular, prices will rise and road usage taxes will be added (some states are already proposing adding a counter to charge cars for how many miles traveled, which will stop incentives to drive evs)
bluegrasser1 Champion Author Richmond Posts:13,135 Points:2,255,145 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:13:25 PM Ignore bluegrasser1 Report Abuse ok
TerryLee Champion Author Ohio Posts:14,295 Points:2,724,225 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:11:53 PM Ignore TerryLee Report Abuse Sounds good on paper give it a try and we'll see
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:5,687 Points:1,307,555 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:11:26 PM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Sounds like a winner.
tampacrvdriver Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,721 Points:360,400 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:08:51 PM Ignore tampacrvdriver Report Abuse Interesting.
carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,207 Points:285,440 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:08:38 PM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse probably won't happen in the next 35 years
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,111 Points:236,650 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:03:58 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Thats so cool, to have a turbine to recharge, love it
umitb Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,868 Points:494,185 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:02:04 PM Ignore umitb Report Abuse ok
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,863 Points:1,073,530 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:00:32 PM Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse we still need a BETTER BATTERIES
cimilluca1 Sophomore Author New York Posts:193 Points:158,175 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:56:48 PM Ignore cimilluca1 Report Abuse It could be our future! Buckle up and hold on!
PoohMcGoo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:1,902 Points:477,805 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:53:30 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse Good luck
JesseJack52 All-Star Author Virginia Beach Posts:612 Points:124,640 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:51:37 PM Ignore JesseJack52 Report Abuse YOU'VE GOTTA LOVE AMERICAN INGENUITY
crazycow2332 All-Star Author Nashville Posts:931 Points:186,580 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:50:35 PM Ignore crazycow2332 Report Abuse ok
gmcgas Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,556 Points:1,357,715 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:50:24 PM Ignore gmcgas Report Abuse we'll see.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,390 Points:510,325 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:50:00 PM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Make the vehicles hybrid versus all electric.
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,513 Points:312,940 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:48:31 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse reliability and better prices are the key...
mrreferee All-Star Author Savannah Posts:652 Points:264,740 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:39:47 PM Ignore mrreferee Report Abuse well, it is not just price, which has to come down, but dependability to make folks desire them. otherwise, they are just "lawn Art"
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,354 Points:181,785 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:37:09 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse I don't know what kind of car to buy in this day and age...I can't afford any of the ones that are suppose to be better...I'll just stick with my Toyota Van...for the amount of driving I do it's all I need..
CptnCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:5,513 Points:709,700 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:35:45 PM Ignore CptnCanada Report Abuse E=MC2... the energy to tow it will be more than it produces
sit Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,415 Points:1,574,140 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:35:43 PM Ignore sit Report Abuse Hmmm
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:11,725 Points:1,080,370 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:33:37 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse Does Sadow know that propane is a crude oil byproduct?
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:6,867 Points:1,100,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:31:07 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse This guy has sniffed too much battery acid today...
idigau22 Champion Author Washington Posts:21,147 Points:2,907,635 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:28:43 PM Ignore idigau22 Report Abuse I luv my big 4x4 truck!!
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,020 Points:1,095,045 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:27:54 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse Just do it.
Thomtec All-Star Author Nashville Posts:713 Points:251,445 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:27:26 PM Ignore Thomtec Report Abuse Inventions need to become affordable innovations.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,948 Points:406,675 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:27:02 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse What is the point in that.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,948 Points:406,675 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:26:19 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse I would never buy an electric car.
72_Monte Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,963 Points:1,636,275 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:26:10 PM Ignore 72_Monte Report Abuse Kinda like pulling around a tank of extra gas.
ccf_jeff Champion Author St. Louis Posts:13,260 Points:2,203,735 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:25:36 PM Ignore ccf_jeff Report Abuse Kudos to Sadow! That's the type of entrepreneurial spirit that made America great.
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:1,059 Points:395,545 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:17:36 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse I get exclent milage when a truck tows me
pse91 All-Star Author Calgary Posts:617 Points:282,240 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:17:24 PM Ignore pse91 Report Abuse If they could develop a wind up car they could save the coal that fires electrical plants
orcar Champion Author Boise Posts:1,859 Points:523,835 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:16:48 PM Ignore orcar Report Abuse If they get the range up the cars would interest me.